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		<title>By: chelsea</title>
		<link>http://talkingincircles.net/2007/02/19/more-hatred-towards-atheists/comment-page-2/#comment-66399</link>
		<dc:creator>chelsea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 21:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The letter might have been a fake but it sadly represented many of the feelings people do have torwards  atheists.   I have no religion  or no god  i believe something is out there but i wouldnt say it&#039;s a god.

I don&#039;t go to church but instead go to mexico every sunday and take clothes to poor families.  I gives poor children food and when i come home i bring home a homeless animal and give them a new home.  

Am I evil because of this.  I believe that instead of wasting my time on praying for something to happen i instead go out and do something to help better the world.   Is that a sin?    

And also in the pledge of allegiance it&#039;s not one nation under god,,  it&#039;s supposed to be one nation under citizens rule.  because last time i checked it was not god who chooses our presidents, there is no divine right in our nation of america.  But it is the people who run this country.


Wow i am only seventeen but i understand alot of things.  And what you people are saying about this is total segregation and discrimination.    they guys are the nazis and the atheists are the jews.  


Do they want to kill the atheists too?     i hope not.


Stop attacking other people.  Just because it makes you feel powerful. People become dictators this way.

lets have peace...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The letter might have been a fake but it sadly represented many of the feelings people do have torwards  atheists.   I have no religion  or no god  i believe something is out there but i wouldnt say it&#8217;s a god.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t go to church but instead go to mexico every sunday and take clothes to poor families.  I gives poor children food and when i come home i bring home a homeless animal and give them a new home.  </p>
<p>Am I evil because of this.  I believe that instead of wasting my time on praying for something to happen i instead go out and do something to help better the world.   Is that a sin?    </p>
<p>And also in the pledge of allegiance it&#8217;s not one nation under god,,  it&#8217;s supposed to be one nation under citizens rule.  because last time i checked it was not god who chooses our presidents, there is no divine right in our nation of america.  But it is the people who run this country.</p>
<p>Wow i am only seventeen but i understand alot of things.  And what you people are saying about this is total segregation and discrimination.    they guys are the nazis and the atheists are the jews.  </p>
<p>Do they want to kill the atheists too?     i hope not.</p>
<p>Stop attacking other people.  Just because it makes you feel powerful. People become dictators this way.</p>
<p>lets have peace&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: max benser</title>
		<link>http://talkingincircles.net/2007/02/19/more-hatred-towards-atheists/comment-page-2/#comment-63681</link>
		<dc:creator>max benser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 14:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>America has a new Adolf Alice Hitler Shannon!

Jesus: “27 But as for those my enemies, who would not have me reign over them, bring them hither and kill them before me.” ( Alice Shannon )

Jesus: “27 πλὴν τοὺς ἐχθρούς μου τούτους τοὺς μὴ θελήσαντάς με βασιλεῦσαι ἐπ’ αὐτοὺς ἀγάγετε ὧδε καὶ κατασφάξατε αὐτοὺς ἔμπροσθέν μου.”

Jesus “16 He that believes and is baptized shall be saved: but he that believes not shall he condemned.”

Jesus: “16 ὁ πιστεύσας καὶ βαπτισθεὶς σωθήσεται, ὁ δὲ ἀπιστήσας κατακριθήσεται.” ( Alice Shannon )

Jesus: “15:5 I am the vine: you the branches. He that abides in me, and I in him, the same bears much fruit: for without me you can do nothing.”

Jesus: “6 If any one abide not in me, he shall be cast forth as a branch and shall wither: and they shall gather him up and cast him into the fire: and he burns.” ( Holocaust: Alice Shannon Hitler )

Jesus: “15:5 ἐγώ εἰμι ἡ ἄμπελος, ὑμεῖς τὰ κλήματα. ὁ μένων ἐν ἐμοὶ κἀγὼ ἐν αὐτῷ, οὗτος φέρει καρπὸν πολύν, ὅτι χωρὶς ἐμοῦ οὐ δύνασθε ποιεῖν οὐδέν.

Jesus: “6 ἐὰν μή τις μένῃ ἐν ἐμοί, ἐβλήθη ἔξω ὡς τὸ κλῆμα καὶ ἐξηράνθη, καὶ συνάγουσιν αὐτὰ καὶ εἰς τὸ πῦρ βάλλουσιν, καὶ καίεται.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>America has a new Adolf Alice Hitler Shannon!</p>
<p>Jesus: “27 But as for those my enemies, who would not have me reign over them, bring them hither and kill them before me.” ( Alice Shannon )</p>
<p>Jesus: “27 πλὴν τοὺς ἐχθρούς μου τούτους τοὺς μὴ θελήσαντάς με βασιλεῦσαι ἐπ’ αὐτοὺς ἀγάγετε ὧδε καὶ κατασφάξατε αὐτοὺς ἔμπροσθέν μου.”</p>
<p>Jesus “16 He that believes and is baptized shall be saved: but he that believes not shall he condemned.”</p>
<p>Jesus: “16 ὁ πιστεύσας καὶ βαπτισθεὶς σωθήσεται, ὁ δὲ ἀπιστήσας κατακριθήσεται.” ( Alice Shannon )</p>
<p>Jesus: “15:5 I am the vine: you the branches. He that abides in me, and I in him, the same bears much fruit: for without me you can do nothing.”</p>
<p>Jesus: “6 If any one abide not in me, he shall be cast forth as a branch and shall wither: and they shall gather him up and cast him into the fire: and he burns.” ( Holocaust: Alice Shannon Hitler )</p>
<p>Jesus: “15:5 ἐγώ εἰμι ἡ ἄμπελος, ὑμεῖς τὰ κλήματα. ὁ μένων ἐν ἐμοὶ κἀγὼ ἐν αὐτῷ, οὗτος φέρει καρπὸν πολύν, ὅτι χωρὶς ἐμοῦ οὐ δύνασθε ποιεῖν οὐδέν.</p>
<p>Jesus: “6 ἐὰν μή τις μένῃ ἐν ἐμοί, ἐβλήθη ἔξω ὡς τὸ κλῆμα καὶ ἐξηράνθη, καὶ συνάγουσιν αὐτὰ καὶ εἰς τὸ πῦρ βάλλουσιν, καὶ καίεται.”</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Jobin</title>
		<link>http://talkingincircles.net/2007/02/19/more-hatred-towards-atheists/comment-page-2/#comment-46563</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Jobin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 04:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I read something like that, I feel a rush of pride of being an atheist.
Da Vinci, I liked your comment. Soon, a large majority of people, as it is in France, Germany and the Checz Republic, will be atheist.

See ya in Hell lol

Richard</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I read something like that, I feel a rush of pride of being an atheist.<br />
Da Vinci, I liked your comment. Soon, a large majority of people, as it is in France, Germany and the Checz Republic, will be atheist.</p>
<p>See ya in Hell lol</p>
<p>Richard</p>
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		<title>By: Sophie</title>
		<link>http://talkingincircles.net/2007/02/19/more-hatred-towards-atheists/comment-page-2/#comment-39290</link>
		<dc:creator>Sophie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 07:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is retarded not only because paranoid ultra-christians think atheists are evil, but because this bitch is just throwing the blame to the minority religous group that already has enough people against them that she doesnt suddenly become hitler, which is what would happen if an atheist said christians were the root of all evil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is retarded not only because paranoid ultra-christians think atheists are evil, but because this bitch is just throwing the blame to the minority religous group that already has enough people against them that she doesnt suddenly become hitler, which is what would happen if an atheist said christians were the root of all evil.</p>
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		<title>By: Cory</title>
		<link>http://talkingincircles.net/2007/02/19/more-hatred-towards-atheists/comment-page-2/#comment-20157</link>
		<dc:creator>Cory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 13:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was inspired by a blog comment about this story that read, &quot;I don&#039;t care if kittens can&#039;t hold matches, they&#039;re the reason for forest fires&quot;:

It&#039;s gotten to the point that America is either a) full of REALLY good ninja-satirists, skewing everything from every angle all over this great country...or b) full of REALLY close-minded, uneducated bigots. What if this article had been about blacks, or fat people (quit eating our country!), or Jews, or women&#039;s rights, or whatever...technically &quot;not&quot; having a religion should be covered under the whole &quot;hate laws&quot; thing when attacked for your religion, right? Here&#039;s how the article would read if it were about kittens (those murderous, murderous bastards): 
 
It&#039;s time to stomp on kittens in America. The majority of Americans would love to kick a kitten or two. I get my research by asking my only 3 friends if they agree with me, and two of them do. Therefore, I extrapolate that into the fact that, um, 60% of Americans must agree with me. If you like kittens, you should go back to where you came from, which was probably Holland, with your stupid, wooden shoes. The United States is based on freedom of religion, speech, etc., which means you can believe in God and free speech, but there&#039;s no Constitutional protection or tolerance of kittens! With their incessant mewling and purring noises! I hate them so much! God says it&#039;s ok to hate, right? Anyway, you can believe God anyway you want (as long as it&#039;s Christian doctrine...no Jews or Muslims allowed! And you damn Egyptians, that used to worship cats, you can go to Hell...along with the Mexicans...), so long as we get rid of kittens! Kittens are evil! Did you know it&#039;s a scientifically proven fact that they suck the breath from babies! That&#039;s like, 6th trimester abortion! Which is also illegal! 
 
I don&#039;t recall seeing any protection for kittens, or even any mention of kittens in the Constitution...or in the Bible! And I&#039;ve read both, cover to cover. I know that the Constitution doesn&#039;t have a cover, but I made one with my scrapbooking kit. Did I tell you I&#039;m into scrapbooking? I am. It&#039;s a hobby of mine. Our Currency says, &quot;In God We Trust&quot;. God backwards spells dog. Did I just blow your mind??!! I HATE KITTENS! They grow up to be cats, and I have a bunch of those, because I&#039;m not married. And they&#039;re the reason I&#039;m not married. People call me the &#039;cat lady&#039; and that scares men off. But luckily Jesus loves me. And He hates kittens, too! So to all you kitten lovers in America, &quot;Get through our country!&quot; 
 
Kittens have ruined this great nation, by taking veterinary focus away from parrots, and finches, and those cute, cute little Chinchillas, and by eating all our cream! My ovaries are shriveled, and men are stupid! I get my opinions from right-wing talk show hosts! Oh, wait, where was I? Oh yeah. I hate kittens. Taking kittens out of this world is the only logical course, and to do anything else would be like slapping God in the face with an aborted fetus. I don&#039;t care if they can hold matches, kittens cause forest fires. 
 
Giant Retard
Soldotna</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was inspired by a blog comment about this story that read, &#8220;I don&#8217;t care if kittens can&#8217;t hold matches, they&#8217;re the reason for forest fires&#8221;:</p>
<p>It&#8217;s gotten to the point that America is either a) full of REALLY good ninja-satirists, skewing everything from every angle all over this great country&#8230;or b) full of REALLY close-minded, uneducated bigots. What if this article had been about blacks, or fat people (quit eating our country!), or Jews, or women&#8217;s rights, or whatever&#8230;technically &#8220;not&#8221; having a religion should be covered under the whole &#8220;hate laws&#8221; thing when attacked for your religion, right? Here&#8217;s how the article would read if it were about kittens (those murderous, murderous bastards): </p>
<p>It&#8217;s time to stomp on kittens in America. The majority of Americans would love to kick a kitten or two. I get my research by asking my only 3 friends if they agree with me, and two of them do. Therefore, I extrapolate that into the fact that, um, 60% of Americans must agree with me. If you like kittens, you should go back to where you came from, which was probably Holland, with your stupid, wooden shoes. The United States is based on freedom of religion, speech, etc., which means you can believe in God and free speech, but there&#8217;s no Constitutional protection or tolerance of kittens! With their incessant mewling and purring noises! I hate them so much! God says it&#8217;s ok to hate, right? Anyway, you can believe God anyway you want (as long as it&#8217;s Christian doctrine&#8230;no Jews or Muslims allowed! And you damn Egyptians, that used to worship cats, you can go to Hell&#8230;along with the Mexicans&#8230;), so long as we get rid of kittens! Kittens are evil! Did you know it&#8217;s a scientifically proven fact that they suck the breath from babies! That&#8217;s like, 6th trimester abortion! Which is also illegal! </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t recall seeing any protection for kittens, or even any mention of kittens in the Constitution&#8230;or in the Bible! And I&#8217;ve read both, cover to cover. I know that the Constitution doesn&#8217;t have a cover, but I made one with my scrapbooking kit. Did I tell you I&#8217;m into scrapbooking? I am. It&#8217;s a hobby of mine. Our Currency says, &#8220;In God We Trust&#8221;. God backwards spells dog. Did I just blow your mind??!! I HATE KITTENS! They grow up to be cats, and I have a bunch of those, because I&#8217;m not married. And they&#8217;re the reason I&#8217;m not married. People call me the &#8216;cat lady&#8217; and that scares men off. But luckily Jesus loves me. And He hates kittens, too! So to all you kitten lovers in America, &#8220;Get through our country!&#8221; </p>
<p>Kittens have ruined this great nation, by taking veterinary focus away from parrots, and finches, and those cute, cute little Chinchillas, and by eating all our cream! My ovaries are shriveled, and men are stupid! I get my opinions from right-wing talk show hosts! Oh, wait, where was I? Oh yeah. I hate kittens. Taking kittens out of this world is the only logical course, and to do anything else would be like slapping God in the face with an aborted fetus. I don&#8217;t care if they can hold matches, kittens cause forest fires. </p>
<p>Giant Retard<br />
Soldotna</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
		<link>http://talkingincircles.net/2007/02/19/more-hatred-towards-atheists/comment-page-2/#comment-20128</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 00:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must say I&#039;m not entirely surprised to see this. This just goes to show you that there is little hope for human kind. Honestly, I believe we are all aware that religion is the root of more war crimes and criminal acts, than the absence of religion has ever caused. This is a sad, sick, display of ignorance and stupidity. It&#039;s really saddening.
End point: Alice Shannon, go fuck yourself.
Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must say I&#8217;m not entirely surprised to see this. This just goes to show you that there is little hope for human kind. Honestly, I believe we are all aware that religion is the root of more war crimes and criminal acts, than the absence of religion has ever caused. This is a sad, sick, display of ignorance and stupidity. It&#8217;s really saddening.<br />
End point: Alice Shannon, go fuck yourself.<br />
Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://talkingincircles.net/2007/02/19/more-hatred-towards-atheists/comment-page-2/#comment-20066</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 02:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, I lose more and more faith in human intelligence each and every day I read something like this</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I lose more and more faith in human intelligence each and every day I read something like this</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny</title>
		<link>http://talkingincircles.net/2007/02/19/more-hatred-towards-atheists/comment-page-2/#comment-15525</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 21:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seriously, aren&#039;t religions all about tolerance? Well, I&#039;m glad to know that the Flying Spaghetti Monster and all of his Great Noodly Appendages are waiting for me in beer-volcano-and-stripper-factory heaven.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously, aren&#8217;t religions all about tolerance? Well, I&#8217;m glad to know that the Flying Spaghetti Monster and all of his Great Noodly Appendages are waiting for me in beer-volcano-and-stripper-factory heaven.</p>
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		<title>By: unknowable</title>
		<link>http://talkingincircles.net/2007/02/19/more-hatred-towards-atheists/comment-page-2/#comment-12108</link>
		<dc:creator>unknowable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 03:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYI: probabilityZero looked up &lt;i&gt;seven¿?¿&lt;/i&gt;&#039;s IP address and he uses AOL. That explains a hell of a lot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI: probabilityZero looked up <i>seven¿?¿</i>&#8217;s IP address and he uses AOL. That explains a hell of a lot.</p>
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		<title>By: seven¿?¿</title>
		<link>http://talkingincircles.net/2007/02/19/more-hatred-towards-atheists/comment-page-2/#comment-12074</link>
		<dc:creator>seven¿?¿</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 01:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha this shit is so wierd who cares what some queer wrote in a newspaper article, what we all should be thinking about is why chuck norris is so cool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha this shit is so wierd who cares what some queer wrote in a newspaper article, what we all should be thinking about is why chuck norris is so cool.</p>
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		<title>By: michaelpain</title>
		<link>http://talkingincircles.net/2007/02/19/more-hatred-towards-atheists/comment-page-2/#comment-10993</link>
		<dc:creator>michaelpain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 18:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And they wonder why atheists are so bitter.


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http://atheistempire.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And they wonder why atheists are so bitter.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br />
<a href="http://atheistempire.com" rel="nofollow">http://atheistempire.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: jimbob</title>
		<link>http://talkingincircles.net/2007/02/19/more-hatred-towards-atheists/comment-page-2/#comment-10563</link>
		<dc:creator>jimbob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 11:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suspect she is an atheist parodying the idiocy of some Christians</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect she is an atheist parodying the idiocy of some Christians</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Davison</title>
		<link>http://talkingincircles.net/2007/02/19/more-hatred-towards-atheists/comment-page-2/#comment-6898</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Davison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 15:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>? - Who Needs Absurd ‘Beliefs’ - ?
Reflections of an Octogenarian.

Religiosity? – Throughout life, I’ve never regarded this subject as deserving of any serious thought - - - 
However, with quietus in the offing, the excessive religious coverage in the media inevitably agitates the neurons.
Of late, these irritants have provoked a deep re-appraisal - - - that has utterly confirmed my basic intuition!

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Logical conclusions after a lifetime of listening inadvertently to the delusive portents of various ‘Faiths’.

A simple story. No need for the meandrine moonshine of  ‘erudite intelligentsia’.
Just take yourself back in time &amp; examine unvarnished facts.

Please acknowledge that the primitive mind was bound to generate, quite naturally, mythological imagery of an Elysian nature.
Also, one must accept that the relative ignorance of early Humanity, coupled with understandable fears of the unknown, provided those  individuals seeking power over their fellows (a natural human trait), with the conditions to set up as  Medicine-Men - Witch-Doctors -  Sorcerers -  Soothsayers - - -  et al, all claiming to have insights &amp; contact with a ‘power’ -  of sorts.
So began the blight of Shamanism - - - leading on to airy-fairy religions.

As time unveiled the past, these facts have not been fully appreciated.
Hence - The ensuing rash of religiosity has not been branded for what it really is - - - 

An early conceive - of ignorance &amp; apprehension - - - 
Perpetuated thro millennia by IMPOSTORS - Preying on credulous naivety.

The natural process of evolution, via many devious pious paths, has now landed us with the present crop of Archbishops - Ayatollahs - Rabbis - Popes - Imams - JWs - &amp; a host of other hypocritical sect leaders, incessantly brainwashing the largely unthinking masses with their ridiculous &amp; childish ‘Holy Beliefs’.

The Billy Grahams of the world, gifted with gab &amp; showmanship, use their ‘bewitching powers’ to prey on the gullibility of the artless.
Yes indeed, in modern form, the Witch-Doctors are still at it! Mountebanks All!

With it’s initiation as above, religiosity can’t be recognised by any sane person to have the gravitas necessary for any authentic ‘Belief’. Seeking reality is anathema to the pious ones. They critically comment on facts of life that are painstakenly unearthed by the practical hard-working talents of seekers of truth. Knowledge of physics &amp; biology would never have advanced if left to ‘Holy’ men.
Sun would still be orbiting Earth. The dim past is their’s, with mystical rites that are still prevalent, albeit with modern trappings.
They are an absurdity! Their endeavours to exalt religiosity by the erection of ever more imposing ‘Places of Worship’ 
merely highlights – Monumentally – the benighted phases of Man’s past. - - - Hell’s Bells! - - - What a shambles!

Weighing up the World-wide situation, a substantial proportion of Humanity are unable to let go of their forebears’ primitive ‘belief’ in a Creator that demands a daily dose of supplication. A person’s specific ‘belief’ is dictated by that part of the globe from where they originated; a simple inheritance of the parents’ unreal ancestral teachings, largely unquestioned! No need to be a ‘Religious Scholar’ (what a fatuous preoccupation) to comprehend why all of this utter humbug survives.

Persistent indoctrination over millennia leave the susceptible with feelings of unease when they attempt to ditch the ingrained silly ‘beliefs’ inherited from similarly misinformed forebears. Most take an apathetic route &amp; run with the various childish theosophical myths passed down through the generations via pious, shallow-thinking naivety - preferring illusion to reality - fantasy to truth.

It has always been decreed that acting on evidential communal common-sense,
ie, utilizing everyday experience &amp; research is the only way forward.

The need to consult Biblical, Qur’anic, or any other ancient crap-laden fairy tales 
in order to pursue a decent &amp; considerate existence beggars belief!

The facts listed above are beyond dispute – Theism? / Divinity? – All absolute Man-made hokum!

Any thinking person realises that the Universe is truly an awesome Quantum / Astronomical creation.
As part of that creation, our attempts at it’s full understanding seem futile.

Probing the Atom or ‘Heavenly’ space &amp; we’re contemplating Infinities.

Fouling up our minds with a rag-bag of archaic religiose twaddle does nothing to help enlighten our ignorance!
 
Anyone taking this farcical subject seriously has to be absolutely pickled in traditional folklore and/or in a sad mental state. Using it’s bogus validity for an easy living and/or monetary gain it’s impostrous practitioners must have no damn conscience at all.

Far too much reverence is devoted to the abstract of religiosity. Vast volumes of impotent bombastic rhetoric has been  generated by impostors who use their dominant dishonest acumen to sublimely charm others to wander in an unreal  ‘Spiritual Wonderland’ that is totally unworthy of any honest contemplation!

*************************

A rational response to the ‘standard’ questions posed by religious organisations.

What is the point of life?

Need there be a ‘point’. Nature instructs all of life to reproduce; to what end, we just don’t know &amp; it’s most likely that we  never will. We can speculate, but are very far short of the necessary knowledge to form a valid judgement!

Certainly, life’s purpose cannot be identified by any ancient decrepit ‘Belief’!

Nature, red in tooth &amp; claw, is pitilessly indifferent to an individual’s quality of life; the fittest for any environment will prosper. Individual quality of life is a lottery. We have arrived &amp; must make the best of it.
Self-deceivers pray for Ethereal help; none is discernable - - - Quite definitely a DIY job!

We live, utilising facts that the experience of life plus research, provides!

The paralogism of religious charlatans can’t match the knowledge we now possess, scant though it be.
Mystical Theosophy is drivel of the first order.


What happens when we die?

Starkly, when the brain ceases to function, that ‘being’ ceases to ‘be’.
The motivation driving that unique combination of elements is no more!
A ‘Spiritual Future’ ????? - - - Pure self-indulgent fantasy!
The chemo-electrical activity of the brain – the mind – is capable of generating any illusive mirage.
If that imagery is not backed up by factual proof, it remains a fantasy.
To give any credence to life after death, one must be round the bend, if not well up the straight!

Natural cognition (common sense), affirms life’s future as solely dependent on reproduction!

Is forgiveness possible?

With almost limitless mutations possible, genetic functioning can be expected to produce individuals with characteristics of an exceedingly complex gradation, in a myriad of aspects – eg - - -

Brilliant to Thick – Jovial to Morose – Benign to Sadistic – Hetero to Homo – ad inf.

Religions provide a very accessible dump for the guilt generated by the various indiscretions to which all humans must, in some respect, be victim.

Do not kid thyself – No one is immaculate!

Those gifted with conscience &amp; a degree of ‘normalcy’ just have to live with the unfortunates &amp; scallywags – amongst 
whom - the ‘Confidence Men’ - enjoying a very comfortable living with their pretentious ‘Divine’ prognostications!

Further thoughts

With the barbarous &amp; brutal acts of differing factions, the mutiplicity of silly ‘Beliefs’ has always been a handicap that 
humanity can well do without. - - - Common sense must prevail!
As the sponge-like mind of an infant readily absorbs info, authentic or fallacious, in teaching the necessary basics of life,  the follies of illogical &amp; delusory religions should be emphasized - - - Strongly!
Offspring should be brought up from birth unprimed with needless pestilential ‘beliefs’. - - - Glaringly Obvious!

Preachers pontificate on a subject so ‘Holey’, it is artlessly transparent. Visualise it’s benighted origins &amp; it’s quite obvious  that the early human mind was bound to generate mythological imagery of an Elysian nature &amp; from there, receptive  fanciful minds took over. ‘Beliefs’ were surely born of ignorance &amp; fear of the unknown! With this realisation, why can’t we all recognise  simple basic facts &amp; treat all ‘faiths’ of today as ever they really were - - - 
A continuing evolution of irrational early thought.

In this more enlightened age - Pure Phantasmic Godswallop!

The Rt Rev Fred Flintstone &amp; his equally-misguided confederates of all other ‘Faiths’ should have dug themselves out of the Stone-age long long ago!

The Past is unveiled thro Time!
Let’s all Profit from it! - Not Perpetuate it! - - - - A m e n</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>? &#8211; Who Needs Absurd ‘Beliefs’ &#8211; ?<br />
Reflections of an Octogenarian.</p>
<p>Religiosity? – Throughout life, I’ve never regarded this subject as deserving of any serious thought &#8211; - &#8211;<br />
However, with quietus in the offing, the excessive religious coverage in the media inevitably agitates the neurons.<br />
Of late, these irritants have provoked a deep re-appraisal &#8211; - &#8211; that has utterly confirmed my basic intuition!</p>
<p>******************************<br />
Logical conclusions after a lifetime of listening inadvertently to the delusive portents of various ‘Faiths’.</p>
<p>A simple story. No need for the meandrine moonshine of  ‘erudite intelligentsia’.<br />
Just take yourself back in time &amp; examine unvarnished facts.</p>
<p>Please acknowledge that the primitive mind was bound to generate, quite naturally, mythological imagery of an Elysian nature.<br />
Also, one must accept that the relative ignorance of early Humanity, coupled with understandable fears of the unknown, provided those  individuals seeking power over their fellows (a natural human trait), with the conditions to set up as  Medicine-Men &#8211; Witch-Doctors &#8211;  Sorcerers &#8211;  Soothsayers &#8211; - &#8211;  et al, all claiming to have insights &amp; contact with a ‘power’ &#8211;  of sorts.<br />
So began the blight of Shamanism &#8211; - &#8211; leading on to airy-fairy religions.</p>
<p>As time unveiled the past, these facts have not been fully appreciated.<br />
Hence &#8211; The ensuing rash of religiosity has not been branded for what it really is &#8211; - &#8211; </p>
<p>An early conceive &#8211; of ignorance &amp; apprehension &#8211; - &#8211;<br />
Perpetuated thro millennia by IMPOSTORS &#8211; Preying on credulous naivety.</p>
<p>The natural process of evolution, via many devious pious paths, has now landed us with the present crop of Archbishops &#8211; Ayatollahs &#8211; Rabbis &#8211; Popes &#8211; Imams &#8211; JWs &#8211; &amp; a host of other hypocritical sect leaders, incessantly brainwashing the largely unthinking masses with their ridiculous &amp; childish ‘Holy Beliefs’.</p>
<p>The Billy Grahams of the world, gifted with gab &amp; showmanship, use their ‘bewitching powers’ to prey on the gullibility of the artless.<br />
Yes indeed, in modern form, the Witch-Doctors are still at it! Mountebanks All!</p>
<p>With it’s initiation as above, religiosity can’t be recognised by any sane person to have the gravitas necessary for any authentic ‘Belief’. Seeking reality is anathema to the pious ones. They critically comment on facts of life that are painstakenly unearthed by the practical hard-working talents of seekers of truth. Knowledge of physics &amp; biology would never have advanced if left to ‘Holy’ men.<br />
Sun would still be orbiting Earth. The dim past is their’s, with mystical rites that are still prevalent, albeit with modern trappings.<br />
They are an absurdity! Their endeavours to exalt religiosity by the erection of ever more imposing ‘Places of Worship’<br />
merely highlights – Monumentally – the benighted phases of Man’s past. &#8211; - &#8211; Hell’s Bells! &#8211; - &#8211; What a shambles!</p>
<p>Weighing up the World-wide situation, a substantial proportion of Humanity are unable to let go of their forebears’ primitive ‘belief’ in a Creator that demands a daily dose of supplication. A person’s specific ‘belief’ is dictated by that part of the globe from where they originated; a simple inheritance of the parents’ unreal ancestral teachings, largely unquestioned! No need to be a ‘Religious Scholar’ (what a fatuous preoccupation) to comprehend why all of this utter humbug survives.</p>
<p>Persistent indoctrination over millennia leave the susceptible with feelings of unease when they attempt to ditch the ingrained silly ‘beliefs’ inherited from similarly misinformed forebears. Most take an apathetic route &amp; run with the various childish theosophical myths passed down through the generations via pious, shallow-thinking naivety &#8211; preferring illusion to reality &#8211; fantasy to truth.</p>
<p>It has always been decreed that acting on evidential communal common-sense,<br />
ie, utilizing everyday experience &amp; research is the only way forward.</p>
<p>The need to consult Biblical, Qur’anic, or any other ancient crap-laden fairy tales<br />
in order to pursue a decent &amp; considerate existence beggars belief!</p>
<p>The facts listed above are beyond dispute – Theism? / Divinity? – All absolute Man-made hokum!</p>
<p>Any thinking person realises that the Universe is truly an awesome Quantum / Astronomical creation.<br />
As part of that creation, our attempts at it’s full understanding seem futile.</p>
<p>Probing the Atom or ‘Heavenly’ space &amp; we’re contemplating Infinities.</p>
<p>Fouling up our minds with a rag-bag of archaic religiose twaddle does nothing to help enlighten our ignorance!</p>
<p>Anyone taking this farcical subject seriously has to be absolutely pickled in traditional folklore and/or in a sad mental state. Using it’s bogus validity for an easy living and/or monetary gain it’s impostrous practitioners must have no damn conscience at all.</p>
<p>Far too much reverence is devoted to the abstract of religiosity. Vast volumes of impotent bombastic rhetoric has been  generated by impostors who use their dominant dishonest acumen to sublimely charm others to wander in an unreal  ‘Spiritual Wonderland’ that is totally unworthy of any honest contemplation!</p>
<p>*************************</p>
<p>A rational response to the ‘standard’ questions posed by religious organisations.</p>
<p>What is the point of life?</p>
<p>Need there be a ‘point’. Nature instructs all of life to reproduce; to what end, we just don’t know &amp; it’s most likely that we  never will. We can speculate, but are very far short of the necessary knowledge to form a valid judgement!</p>
<p>Certainly, life’s purpose cannot be identified by any ancient decrepit ‘Belief’!</p>
<p>Nature, red in tooth &amp; claw, is pitilessly indifferent to an individual’s quality of life; the fittest for any environment will prosper. Individual quality of life is a lottery. We have arrived &amp; must make the best of it.<br />
Self-deceivers pray for Ethereal help; none is discernable &#8211; - &#8211; Quite definitely a DIY job!</p>
<p>We live, utilising facts that the experience of life plus research, provides!</p>
<p>The paralogism of religious charlatans can’t match the knowledge we now possess, scant though it be.<br />
Mystical Theosophy is drivel of the first order.</p>
<p>What happens when we die?</p>
<p>Starkly, when the brain ceases to function, that ‘being’ ceases to ‘be’.<br />
The motivation driving that unique combination of elements is no more!<br />
A ‘Spiritual Future’ ????? &#8211; - &#8211; Pure self-indulgent fantasy!<br />
The chemo-electrical activity of the brain – the mind – is capable of generating any illusive mirage.<br />
If that imagery is not backed up by factual proof, it remains a fantasy.<br />
To give any credence to life after death, one must be round the bend, if not well up the straight!</p>
<p>Natural cognition (common sense), affirms life’s future as solely dependent on reproduction!</p>
<p>Is forgiveness possible?</p>
<p>With almost limitless mutations possible, genetic functioning can be expected to produce individuals with characteristics of an exceedingly complex gradation, in a myriad of aspects – eg &#8211; - -</p>
<p>Brilliant to Thick – Jovial to Morose – Benign to Sadistic – Hetero to Homo – ad inf.</p>
<p>Religions provide a very accessible dump for the guilt generated by the various indiscretions to which all humans must, in some respect, be victim.</p>
<p>Do not kid thyself – No one is immaculate!</p>
<p>Those gifted with conscience &amp; a degree of ‘normalcy’ just have to live with the unfortunates &amp; scallywags – amongst<br />
whom &#8211; the ‘Confidence Men’ &#8211; enjoying a very comfortable living with their pretentious ‘Divine’ prognostications!</p>
<p>Further thoughts</p>
<p>With the barbarous &amp; brutal acts of differing factions, the mutiplicity of silly ‘Beliefs’ has always been a handicap that<br />
humanity can well do without. &#8211; - &#8211; Common sense must prevail!<br />
As the sponge-like mind of an infant readily absorbs info, authentic or fallacious, in teaching the necessary basics of life,  the follies of illogical &amp; delusory religions should be emphasized &#8211; - &#8211; Strongly!<br />
Offspring should be brought up from birth unprimed with needless pestilential ‘beliefs’. &#8211; - &#8211; Glaringly Obvious!</p>
<p>Preachers pontificate on a subject so ‘Holey’, it is artlessly transparent. Visualise it’s benighted origins &amp; it’s quite obvious  that the early human mind was bound to generate mythological imagery of an Elysian nature &amp; from there, receptive  fanciful minds took over. ‘Beliefs’ were surely born of ignorance &amp; fear of the unknown! With this realisation, why can’t we all recognise  simple basic facts &amp; treat all ‘faiths’ of today as ever they really were &#8211; - &#8211;<br />
A continuing evolution of irrational early thought.</p>
<p>In this more enlightened age &#8211; Pure Phantasmic Godswallop!</p>
<p>The Rt Rev Fred Flintstone &amp; his equally-misguided confederates of all other ‘Faiths’ should have dug themselves out of the Stone-age long long ago!</p>
<p>The Past is unveiled thro Time!<br />
Let’s all Profit from it! &#8211; Not Perpetuate it! &#8211; - &#8211; - A m e n</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 20:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Atheists are the reason crime is rampant&quot;?

Wonder if she knows that atheists represent 1% of the prison population while representing 10% of the general population... meaning that atheists are actually 10 times *less* likely to commit a crime than the rest of the populace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Atheists are the reason crime is rampant&#8221;?</p>
<p>Wonder if she knows that atheists represent 1% of the prison population while representing 10% of the general population&#8230; meaning that atheists are actually 10 times *less* likely to commit a crime than the rest of the populace.</p>
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		<title>By: melior</title>
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		<dc:creator>melior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2007 00:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s really a shame that the editor has so obviously corrected the writer&#039;s grammar, punctuation, and spelling.

God&#039;s interpreted wisdom is so much tastier unfiltered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s really a shame that the editor has so obviously corrected the writer&#8217;s grammar, punctuation, and spelling.</p>
<p>God&#8217;s interpreted wisdom is so much tastier unfiltered.</p>
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