Answer: there’s nothing wrong with it. It improves the lives of children by bringing them into loving homes. Where’s the problem with that?
Apparently conservatives (such as luckily-not-president McCain) believe that allowing gay and lesbian couples to adopt is somehow bad or immoral. McCain had this to say about it:
I think that we’ve proven that both parents are important in the success of a family so, no, I don’t believe in gay adoption.
So, better to leave them in an orphanage rather than to let them be adopted by what he think is a less than ideal family? I’ll even agree with him that having two same-sex parents rather than a traditional mother and father could potentially be detrimental in their development (traditional psychology places importance on both parental figures), but not nearly as detrimental as, say, having a single parent, or having one or both parents be assholes, or living in a poor family, or any number of things — big surprise, not every single child has a perfect life. It’s certainly no-where near as bad for the child as having neither a mother or a father. In fact, there’s plenty of research that shows that children of gay parents turn out just fine.
When The Daily Show covered this issue a while ago, Samantha Bee jokingly referred to “gay parents and their soon-to-be-gay children,” and I think this might actually be the problem conservatives have with this issue, deep down. I’ve seen research going either way about whether children raised by homosexual parents are more likely to identify later in life as homosexual (most of what I’ve seen says it isn’t true), but in some ways it makes sense — they’re already exposed to it so they know it’s “okay” and are more willing to accept their own sexual orientation, rather than trying to repress it or attempt to deny it. If this were true I’d have no problem with it, and neither should you, dear reader; there’s nothing immoral about being homosexual, so a higher chance of identifying as one is not important. I think some conservatives take this way too far, and incorporate it into their “gay people are trying to corrupt our culture” conspiracy, thinking that homosexual parents are out there infecting innocent children with “the gay.” That whole world-view is so absurd (and popular) that I try not to think about it.
So, I’ve done my best to imagine the point of view of someone who opposes gay adoption. Short of Christian fundies that think gays are evil or homophobes that hate gays irrationally (those two groups overlap a lot), I don’t see any reason for a rational person to oppose gay adoption. But, I don’t see any rational reason for anyone to oppose gay marraige either, so I guess the two go hand-in-hand.
damn right there’s nothing wrong with it…
i remember that segment from the daily show… funny stuff
and yeah, better leave the little kids in the orphinage than give them a family that might turn them gay… wtf are these people smoking?!
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Children are best raised by a mother and a father who are in a committed relationship, like marriage. It’s been that way for thousands of years, and attempts to do social experiementing with children in the name of political correctness is absurd.
james: You didn’t read the article. I addressed that point at the top of the post.
Probabilityzero,
The literature you and your cohorts site is absurd. 97% percent of the population is “hetro” therefore 97% of all adoptable children are “hetro”. If a child is placed in a gay household, the surroundings will send confusing messages that will, in time, lead the child to act on homosexual feelings, that most people have at sometime in their lives, and possibly damage the childs self image. There is a natural level of homosexuals in the population and they should be accepted and loved for who they are. But to place a heterosexual child in a homosexual house hold is just as wrong as trying to convert a person to a different sexuality.
I was raised in a completely heterosexual community and I turned out gay. Weird huh? According to Ben’s logic, I would have became heterosexual since I was raised in a heterosexual environment. Yet, I still developed feelings for other guys without ANY exposure to ANY sort of homosexuality. Sexuality is something that developed within me naturally and was not influenced dramatically by any outside forces.
If I were to adopt a child with another man (which I can’t right now because I’m too young…I’m still in school) I would never impose my sexuality on my children or “convert” them. I’ll just say “if you’re straight, that’s cool. If you’re gay, that’s cool too. I don’t care what gender you like.” As long as they know that they are loved no matter what, I’ll be happy.
I do not know if I articulated my point as much as I wanted to. All I can say to Ben is, your statement is very ignorant. =)
i think that if someone wants to be gay then that is their decision.
im all for gay marriage and gay adoption im straight myself but very pro gay etc im even doing my dissertation for uni on gay adoption and harm to the child here my findings there is NO harm at all to the child its the whole nature nurture debate its in a persons nature if they are gay or not , NOT the way they were brought up!!!!! this is a birtish girls views mind you not american i just dont see why people are so against it as long as the child has a loving safe secure environment then whats the problem!
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there is no logic behind the ” if they live with the gays they will turn out gay” statment. same sex couples have not been allowed to adopt only until recent years, which means the millions of gays that there are were raised in hetrosexual households. being raised by gays does not insure that they will come out gay. people want to claim that by giving the gays the right to adopt it will emotionally/mentally disturb the child but they act as if waiting for a loving and willing parent to take you away while you wait in a foster home isnt damaging to ones mind. cmon people
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i am doing a debate in my ethics class on gay and lesbian adoption.this article is exactlly what i want to say finaly i found someone with an opinion, and an awsome one at that!u rock and have helped me find a way to say what i think. i completly agree that 2 same sex parents are better than the parents the child had at birth these people actually want the child and will love them probly more than any other couple b/c they had to bust their ass longer and harder to get this child. peace out:)!
in the Bible is states it plainly that man and another man is totally wrong as with girl and girl.
so its totally going against the Bible first of all and second God intended for man and women to be together
he didnt make adam and john, he made adam(man) and out of adam he made Eve(women) if he wanted to be man and man or women and women he would have made that from the beginning!
Propabilityzero – you’re such a freaking ignorant saddistic freak. You want them poor children to be massacred by those perverts. I always knew that atheists are somewhat unadopted to the society, but what you show by yourself… It’s disgusting. That’s what I say – and believe me, I’m not the only one.
i think its better for a child to have parents no matter if the couple is gay or straight. if the child will be loved and taken care of whats the problem? if children didnt get adopted they will become angry with the world and could start a life of violence. now ask yourselves would it be better for a gay couple to love and care for a child, or have that child grow up without a family and most likely become a criminal? the safer way to go is to let them adopt the child.
i agree 100% with homosexual adoption, every child in this world deserves to have a family, love, and home. there is NO reason to ,make homosexual adoption as a wrong action. and i have to agree with -renise- the statement “if they live with the gays they will turn out gay” is completely wrong from my opinion, because, it does not depended on the parents if you will become gay or not eventually, it is most likely to be dependent on the surroundings the kid is living in, i mean friends, school, town, anything related. even if the child will be gay eventually, it does not mean he is weird, different, or anything that can come up, he/she is a human being, that just have a different life style, i do not see anything wrong with this. any lifestyle is 100% depended on the child, NOT on his parents; as long as the child is staying a loving home and a family, there is nothing to be worried about, as he will grow up, it is his choice.
Set aside feelings or emotions, if at all possible and look at the facts. The first argument for homosexual adoption is “it would be better to have them out of the orphanages,” or any parent is better than no parent. The number of children in the adoption system has nothing to do with the restrictions of homosexual adoption. Example, how is it two registered nurses, well adjusted highly respected in both their personal and professional worlds are denied the ability to adopt. Why? Answer, one of them recived a DUI 15 years ago. The charge was cleared from their record after completing every court ordered program. Aside from that, there has never been another incident on their record. The system is broken, not because gays cannot adopt but because it is hard for anyone to adopt. Argument number two, “i see nothing wrong with homosexual parents, they are good people good parents and the kids turn out just fine.” True, homosexual parents can raise children in a physically healthy environment, providing for all of their physical needs, but a child in a homosexual household will ALWAYS be lacking in mental and emotional development. Counter argument: “Well children in a heterosexual home lack in emotional development as well.” True, but not ALWAYS. Children in heterosexual homes have a chance of growing up fully emotionally and mentally adjusted. Children of homosexual families, by default are lacking. Point: The nuturing of both a mother and father has ALWAYS been necessary to a child’s development. In a homosexual household one piece will ALWAYS be missing. Counter argument: “Two men or two women do just fine, you don’t always need both.” Point: You try it. Single parents are not good for a child. My mother was a single parent and did the best she could but she could never have done better than a well adjusted heterosexual couple. I grew up primarily without a father, i needed one, but found myself lacking that influence. In a homosexual household the child will always have that disadvantage. Two of the same part does not make up the other half. Side argument: “Homosexuality is not influenced by nuturing or environment, it develops naturall.” FACT: To date their has been no scientific evidence to prove or even theorize that homosexuality is a completely natural occuring phenomenon within humans. Darwins laws on the success or continuation of a species states that in order for a species to be successful the species must be able to procreate, homosexuality is unnatural. Even if there was a homosexual gene it would never survive and would be bred out do to the nature that homosexuals cannot naturally procreate.
This is quite long and I have given an opignion to a select few coments, I would apreciate it if you cauld all read them and keep an open mind. If you would like to discuss about any comments I have posted please email me at (sebs121@hotmail.com) .
Ashley; Ashley, no religion or beleif should fit in this conversation as we alredy know acording to the bible homosexuality is moraly wrong. I personally beleive in everything and nothing, I keep my mind open to all posibilities but I will NOT comit myself to one religion or beleif without 100% proof behind it. Faith if you ask me is something a person has planted in their minds to the point of triking themselves subconciously into basing themselves on a (story). This topic cauld go on forever and I would love to hear all of you’re points and views, maybe a little debate were you cauld enlighten me.
Tiffany Tomblin; Althouhg this may not be important I feel compelled to say that a homosexual, bisexual, lesbian or any other word for it does not (chose) to be attracted to the same sexe, it is the way they are born, they can not change it. It is not always a want but a must because of the way they are born. I am bisexual because I am attracted to both women and men, not one more than the other and I have (expiremented) with both. If I had to chose I would (want) to not be bisexual and be straight, I have tried for two years and only recently have I accepted the fact that I am attracted to both, all this to say that you can not change what sexuality you are attracted to and neither do you decide or want.
Flijoy; Society, what a dumb word used just to say that if you aren’t like the rest, you aren’t accepted. Flijoye, society is becoming a blend of everything imaginable and that is a dramatic change, some go against religion, culture, tradition, no matter. The ones stuck in the past are the ignorant ones, the ones who can not accept or keep an open mind to this change. We are one earth on one planet and we have all contributed to what it has turned into, to the changes going on. I understand that everyone has an opignion but is it really fair to say that someones opignion is discusting when you’re own opignion and mind is not willing to open up and gather what knowledge these changes bring? That is all I have to say about the ignorant ones…
James; Things change, no matter how long they have been going on for… Whether the mother and father or father and father or mother and mother are in a comited relationship, I do not think it will make much of a difference, there are still devorces like there are breakups, my parents were maried and got a devorce, I do not see you’re point in the parents comitment to their relationship to a child life or growth. If I understood this corectly (wich I probably don’t and am about to sound dumb
) , child adoption by gay parents is not an experiment in the name of political correctness but simply a fact that homosexual parents can save a child from being raised in an orphanege and probably not having the nescesities a child needs to grow and live in the future but not only that it is also a chance for the homesexual couple to have an ordanarie – ( Ugh… I hate that word) life by raising a child.
Ben; I do not agree with that at all. I apreciate that you are so open minded and even open to that fact that homosexuals should be treated as any other human being. My point is that I do not see how you can think that the surondings (wich only consist of having same sexe parents) can push them into any kind of homosexual acts. Now if you say that everyone in one point in their life have homosexual feelings is it not their choise to chose wether or not to act on it and if they do, who says that it was not a simple phase that will pass or a feeling brouhgt on by rejection of the same sexe? I agree that it will keep them open minded and more (willing) to act on these feelings (being raised in this type of household) but if it so happens in everyones life than a little of a (push) in the homosexual direction should not be the penalty for homosexuals to adopt a child. As for you’re last phrase: NOT EVEN CLOSE! Thank you.
My remark on the artical: As for the artical itself, I agree intirely with it, it shows every point and pro and realistic con about homosexual adoption. Now I may only just have graduated grade eight and only 14 years old but I feel very strongly about the gay (comunity) and the rights according to it. Thanks for reading.
Sebastien.